tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post6846555948745288345..comments2024-02-19T08:15:55.941+00:00Comments on Léargas: Sinn Féin agus an GhaeilgeMáirtín Ó Muilleoirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15088662505129211196noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-10458427119428897632010-02-18T14:35:33.337+00:002010-02-18T14:35:33.337+00:00Cuirim fáilte roimh ráiteas SF i leith an Ghaeilge...Cuirim fáilte roimh ráiteas SF i leith an Ghaeilge.John M O Donoghuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01293306659177189914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-45490733639244472192010-02-17T20:35:20.705+00:002010-02-17T20:35:20.705+00:00Gerry, my husband and I join Ed Feighan in extendi...Gerry, my husband and I join Ed Feighan in extending to you & Colette our prayers and best wishes.Linda Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-27375863259310559452010-02-17T11:29:13.641+00:002010-02-17T11:29:13.641+00:00Hi Gerry,Just want to let you know that our prayer...Hi Gerry,Just want to let you know that our prayers and thoughts are with you and Colette at this time. Ed F.Ed Feighannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-53274516805458265762010-02-16T17:35:05.214+00:002010-02-16T17:35:05.214+00:00What I always say is this: the human condition is ...What I always say is this: the human condition is too complex to be expressed with only a few languages--we need every one of them.<br /><br />Good work, Sinn Féin, and good luck to you.Linda Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-73609088782178894882010-02-16T16:09:59.300+00:002010-02-16T16:09:59.300+00:00Odd.
I don't recall much mention of this issu...Odd.<br /><br />I don't recall much mention of this issue during the course of last summer's Sinn Féin Horse & Pony in New York and San Francisco.Daithíhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10244973908794885703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-5155792343312069482010-02-16T02:07:44.608+00:002010-02-16T02:07:44.608+00:00Its my personal opinion as a relatively young man(...Its my personal opinion as a relatively young man(31) in America that all Irish peoples on planet earth should have the opportunity to learn Gaelic as a second or even first language. Every culture over here uses there native tongue as a personal identity. For some reason I've noticed that the Gaelic languages are not doing as strong as say Spanish or Italian for example. Maybe the Irish government as a whole can offer a reGaelification program like a free Irish language and history class on the internet or something. Personally I know a little Irish which I learned from spending a lot of time with my grandma as a kid in New York. That was possible 30 years ago because the older generation spoke more Gaelic. The imigrants coming here now know less and don't teach their American children. Its time Celtic culture to be reborn and recognized for its beauty and individualism. Hopefully unification can bring about a rebirth of Eirenach culture around the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-49735011251618897252010-02-15T18:38:25.649+00:002010-02-15T18:38:25.649+00:00Reading this, there is no doubt that Sinn Féin fac...Reading this, there is no doubt that Sinn Féin faced, and continue to face, major political obstacles to the advancement of the Irish language; ranging from DUP total opposition through to Irish Government reticence. <br /><br />Still, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the Irish language seems to be moving backwards instead of forwards. The GFA had several paragraphs in relation to the language. The St Andrews agreement had one line in relation to Irish. And this most recent agreement, hailed as 'the coming of age' of the 'process' here, has had the very use of the word 'Irish language' successfully purged from the text. How the term 'mutual respect' could be inserted into a document that so obviously had purged the word 'Irish language' out of it is beyond me.<br /><br />Not only is the Acht na Gaeilge not on the cards, but it is looking as though even the woolly notion of a strategy is even going to be more woolly by the time it is presented. <br /><br />Of course, the blame for this lies mostly with the other parties rather than Sinn Féin, but if you sign an agreement such as this one then you are also as much responsible for what is NOT in it as you are about what is in it.<br /><br />It is difficult not to welcome the £20 million over the next 4 or 5 years, so some credit must go for achieving that. But it must also be said that the bulk of it is going to maintain something that is currently being provided, rather than being anything extra or new.<br /><br /> As a member of the Irish-speaking community here I have come to the conclusion that the language is not regarded with sufficient seriousness, even by its most ardent supporter in the recent talks, Sinn Féin. The question of the language is the litmus test of how much the 'embryonic new improved northern statelet' intends to embrace an Irish identity within its jurisdiction. So far, it has failed dismally, and those most entrusted to ensure its inclusion have been shown to acquiesce to its exclusion when really put to the test.Seán Mórhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14968274009227320702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-59841074781884714212010-02-15T16:38:26.398+00:002010-02-15T16:38:26.398+00:00Although I am not an Irish speaker I believe Irish...Although I am not an Irish speaker I believe Irish speaker have the right to converse in their own language. If we compare the language with the Welsh and what they have achieved you will find nation that has been reborn with national pride. Irish is not a political football it is our right be you catholic, protestant, hindu, jew or muslim it is our language and it should be embrassed as the Welsh have done with theirsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-48645882680539456912010-02-15T15:12:04.748+00:002010-02-15T15:12:04.748+00:00tá sé seo go maith, Gaeilge Abu!tá sé seo go maith, Gaeilge Abu!Juanhttp://sinnfeinenargentina.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-46591585976520708602010-02-15T13:30:25.283+00:002010-02-15T13:30:25.283+00:00So does this mean there is now money to restart Ga...So does this mean there is now money to restart Gaeloiliuint and decommission Comhairle and Foras and promote the language like it was actively promoted a decade ago?West-of--the-Bannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-68069799082885462402010-02-15T11:52:35.402+00:002010-02-15T11:52:35.402+00:00A chara,
I welcome much that is written here but ...A chara,<br /><br />I welcome much that is written here but I would add some advice which is intended in the best spirit. This refers to the strength of Irish as a spoken language. <br />The home is the most important community for the language, however because most parents do not speak it they cannot 'bring the language home again'. This leaves us with Gaelscoileanna. They provide the nearest space to an upbringing through Irish. <br />However even though they are growing, after more than 40 years only a tiny fraction of the children of the north attend them (I think between 1 and 2%). <br />The fact is that due to their separation from their Gaelic culture, most parents still see gaelscoileanna as suspicious, a step too far. Even in the area which holds the Gaeltacht quarter, your own constituency, only around 8% of kids attend Gaelscoileanna...<br />The truth is people still don't make the connection to their language and because Irish-medium does not have resources to promote itself properly and consistently in advertising and communication, the opportunities for them to hear the story are always limited.<br /><br />Despite national studies showing that Gaelscoileanna are the most effect engine in creating people who can speak Gaeilge, Irish language bodies themselves have not recognised this by putting more resources into 'WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS'. The lack of a businesslike model for the language means that we continue to put too much emphasis into being seen to support projects that have a good feel instead of prioritizing what is effective. Sinn Féin sit on many of these committtee's.<br /><br />The money given to television in the north has been a great success, but the resources given to perhaps potentially the most important body are very poor in comparision. InaG provides seed funds to new projects and provides the financial spark, which is often the difference between success and failure, between new Irish speaking communities and none. Yet despite that huge task before it of supporting naíscoileanna, Gaelscoileanna and meánscoileanna it has never really been able to fully thrive as it should in its role.<br /><br />Our inconsistent and unfocused approach to supporting the language instead of creating communities of speakers needs to be addressed. <br /><br />At a meeting at Stormont with Irish groups you were asked to talk about Sinn Féin's approach to the language, when you sent me your answer, it was a qualitative account and not a clear vision with steps, it greatly disappointed me, as it is clear to me that you have a belief in the what our language can bring.<br /><br />I would urge in this work ahead that Sinn Féin and others take a step beyond what most political and indeed Irish language bodies have achieved to date. We as a community on this island need to look at what works, what creates speakers. To help facilitate people who have a sense of themselves not based on geography, but based on the knowledge that comes from our ancestors, the language can open this door in a way that nothing else can. <br />We need to re-frame the discussion ...Our people need support not the language, the language and the knowledge it can bring will provide much of this support.<br /><br />Our approach to the revival of our people needs to be quantitative and businesslike . To date the mood music is often there but we need investment in the key areas and a business plan approach ( with heart and soul)<br />So in short money invested in areas that actually create speakers and in communities of speakers. There is much to do and to-date we, all of us, are only fumbling about...A new way of looking at this is needed and I believe that Sinn Féin like the rest of us have not fully engaged with WHAT WORKS. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Le gach dea-ghuí <br /><br />RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-62422981254720554302010-02-15T10:46:02.278+00:002010-02-15T10:46:02.278+00:00Is trua nach féidir le Sinn Féin úsáid a bhaint as...Is trua nach féidir le Sinn Féin úsáid a bhaint as an teanga sa gnáth saoil. Ar leabhar SF faoi chúrsaí sláinte, oideachas, dlí agus cirt, rialtas áitiúil, nó aon ábhasr eile seachas Gaeilge agus ábahr Gaeltachta ríomh?<br /><br />Is suíomh Béarla suíomh ghréasáin SF http://www.sinnfein.ie/ (Mar aon le gach páirtí eile!)<br /><br />Is maith an rud dearchadh dearfach Gerry Adams a fhéicheáil agus go bhfuil rialtas Sasana le airgead a chuir ar fáil don teanga. Ach muna n-úsáideann Gerry agus a lucht leanúna an teanga ní féidir a chreidiúint go bhfuil siad dairíré faoi..Eoin Ó Riainhttp://gaeltacht21.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-20784097744656261882010-02-15T10:25:50.628+00:002010-02-15T10:25:50.628+00:00Taithníonn sé liom gur thug Sinn Féin freagra ar a...Taithníonn sé liom gur thug Sinn Féin freagra ar an mbrú uaimse agus ó dhaoine eile faoi dheireadh thiar. Maith sibh as sin, ar a laghad. <br />Níl mé ag déanamh comhghairdeas leat as ucht an forogra seo go fóíll, go bhfeicfidh mé dath airgead Gordon Brown. <br />Cén fath ná raibh seo luaite sa Chomhaontú ag Caislean Cromghlinne?Concubharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00519874850767205838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-85814343022661523542010-02-15T09:41:08.611+00:002010-02-15T09:41:08.611+00:00There you go Concubhar,hopefully this is what you ...There you go Concubhar,hopefully this is what you asked of Sinn Fein<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />SamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-35516901426235613582010-02-15T09:40:00.845+00:002010-02-15T09:40:00.845+00:00Gerry
In relation to the teaching of Irish throug...Gerry<br /><br />In relation to the teaching of Irish through the Gaelscoileanna and especially in the management of these schools, It is my experience that the Management boards are lacking in effective management due to their insistence that members of the boards must speak Irish. I don't speak Irish<br />but I do my small bit to promote it.Frankly I see no reason why Boards of Management in Irish Speaking schools must conduct their business through Irish, it is critical I may say that the teaching of Irish in schools must be through Irish, but unfortunately the children and parents are lossing out because the right peple are not on the Board of Managment.I would be interested to know other peoples views on thisPaul Dorannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-67599049042325975502010-02-15T03:37:15.118+00:002010-02-15T03:37:15.118+00:00Even a minority language, can have a important sym...Even a minority language, can have a important symbolic role in the life of every person.A second language by a larger and expanding minority,can make life that much more,within personal contexts and social situations. As with a all Ireland view,as Irish the constitutional status as the national and first official language of the Republic of Ireland. Good to see a largely positive views of the language Gerry. We need to guarantee the long-term survival of Irish as the predominant community language,Foras Feasa ar Éirinn.Timothy Doughertynoreply@blogger.com