tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post1972185418211332257..comments2024-03-23T10:20:15.689+00:00Comments on Léargas: CR gas - Chemical Warfare in IrelandMáirtín Ó Muilleoirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15088662505129211196noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-48278195089948202432009-05-22T14:31:54.300+01:002009-05-22T14:31:54.300+01:00Timothy, I like your phrase "institutionalized vio...Timothy, I like your phrase "institutionalized violence," which pretty much says it all; a war-based economy filters down to all facets of society, from military torture to domestic violence. I'm going to borrow your phrase for my next "health care, not warfare" letters.Linda Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-27217036674337735612009-05-22T01:54:04.790+01:002009-05-22T01:54:04.790+01:00Gerry,Fada iarsma na droichbheirte. The British Ar...Gerry,Fada iarsma na droichbheirte. The British Army and the RUC Special Branch were full of vicious thugs, sadists and torturers.The British Army and the security forces, like any other army in the world, is conditioned and trained to institutionalized violence.The use of CS became a favourite anti-riot weapon for the troops until 1972,when questions were asked .It was just one more tool of a injustice. The topic should be keep out in the light for the truth to be told.Timothy Doughertynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-81499305535495647672009-05-21T19:02:41.505+01:002009-05-21T19:02:41.505+01:00Hi, Maire,
I'm not former military, but I was thi...Hi, Maire,<br /><br />I'm not former military, but I was thinking the same thing as you, and came over to post a link from the Vietnam Veterans of America about their exposure to toxic chemicals: http://edgewoodtestvets.org/<br /><br />Hopefully, it will help Jim and the Ceartas group to read about what our vets are doing.Linda Colemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-65304442129080332372009-05-21T13:58:54.956+01:002009-05-21T13:58:54.956+01:00Gerry, as a former member of the military in the U...Gerry, as a former member of the military in the US, the topic of governments using toxic chemicals, which exposed our soldiers has been a great concern of mine over the years.<br /><br />Just the simple fact that the US government refused the offer to purchase CR gas, tells you that it must have been for lack of a better term "bad stuff" After all, the US military over the years, has exposed it's own troops, and civilians to chemicals that caused long term health problems, not only to its soldiers, but to their families. I personally know former soldiers from campaigns in Vietnam, and Desert Storm, who not only suffered great health problems, but who's children were born with horrible birth defects.<br /><br />It was not ignorance, but yet another example of the blatant disregard for the prisoners, and their arrogant colonial attitude towards the Irish people that reigned supreme in their decisions to suject the prisoners to such cruel treatment.<br /><br />An indepth research study, which <br />was done by the scientific community, both on animals and humans can be found here:<br /><br /> http://books.google.com/books?id=lZgrAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA199&lpg=PA199&dq=CR+Gas+long+term+effects&source=bl&ots=XyBDyb0lvW&sig=7ZWGww-rj43o-fPvf-DCzLVnN-M&hl=en&ei=BUkVSqODBpSo8QTD79jHAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#PPA200,M1<br /><br />They did summarize the reseach at that time by saying the long term effects on humans was not known. Later though, it was reported that the use of CR gas would not be used by policing authorities here, because of the possibility of long term carcinogetic occurances.<br /><br />For the British government to admit the useage of CR, would mean an admittance of utilyzing this agent after the earlier studies indicated that the long term effects were not known. Bad enough to use these agents at all, worse that there were chemical agents already in useage, that could have been used, with fewer toxic side effects.<br /><br />Enough said.Mairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00018934862739637076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-28133202384318794082009-05-21T11:52:14.903+01:002009-05-21T11:52:14.903+01:00A chara Gerry,
Thanks again for highlighting thi...A chara Gerry, <br /><br />Thanks again for highlighting this gross injustice. Any help is more than welcome to expose what really took place on October 16, 1974.Ceartaishttp://ceartais.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5004730508631468243.post-25224758194614304282009-05-20T23:41:35.901+01:002009-05-20T23:41:35.901+01:00Gerry, The leadership of Britain in 1974 should be...Gerry, The leadership of Britain in 1974 should be tried and convicted in the Hague and receive the same sentence as Saddam Hussein. The only difference between him and them is their gas took a little longer to kill. E.F.E.Feighannoreply@blogger.com